Putting Tile in My Bathroom - Contractor Talk - Professional Construction and Remodeling Forum

SHAWNPAINTS · 01-06-2009, 07:25 AM

Here's my question. I have the linoleum ripped up and there is just lueon(think its spelled right) left. I want to install tile. My question is do I have to put down backer board or am I able to just lay the tile onto the lueon? If I have to put down the new board, I'm guessing that they make some type of wax ring that will cover the lift of the tile and board. Thanks for all the help in advance.

jamestrd · 01-06-2009, 08:57 AM

Cant put tile over Luan.

I would lift the luan out and put down 1/2" CBU..

wax ring?

you taling for the toilet?

shouldnt be an issue....

SHAWNPAINTS · 01-06-2009, 10:43 AM

So rip out luan totally and then put down 1/2" backerboard. I was curious if i left luan down then put the backerboard down then the tile if the height would mess with the wax ring on the toilet. Thanks again!!!

DavidC · 01-06-2009, 11:25 AM

www.tileusa.com

You'll find answers to your specifics here. Generally speaking your sub floor should be 1 1/4" total before your backer board, but there are other factors to consider such as joist size and spacing. If your loo gets lifted to much you can use a wax ring with a horn to make up the difference.

Good Luck
Dave

Static Design · 01-06-2009, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SHAWNPAINTS

So rip out luan totally and then put down 1/2" backerboard. I was curious if i left luan down then put the backerboard down then the tile if the height would mess with the wax ring on the toilet. Thanks again!!!

Thats why they make jumbo rings.

reveivl · 01-06-2009, 12:11 PM

First, is the floor stiff enough for tile? Joist size, span, spacing? You need to pull the luan, add more ply (likely) and then backer of some kind. The backer can be 1/4" if you're concerned about height, or a membrane if you're really concerned. You want to put thinset under the backer too.

As others have said, the flange isn't a problem, you can get extended wax rings or you can add depth to the flange itself.

Bud Cline · 01-06-2009, 01:07 PM

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SHAWNPAINTS
Pure Vision
Trade: FLOORING PRO / PAINTING

Not finding a Yellow Pages listing for Lawson & Son's Flooring and Painting in the state of New Jersey as your profile states.

Are you sure your questions shouldn't be in the Do It Yourself Forums on the sister site? Seems the questions are elementary and the answers should be we known to a flooring guy.

ALL tile adhesive containers have stated for years that luaun CAN NOT be used in a tile installation.

http://www.diychatroom.com/

mrmike · 01-06-2009, 01:35 PM

you can install a toilet flange extender, but as long as your doing all that work to the floor, if your plumbing is PVC I would cut it below the floor, install a coupling with pipe and a new toilet flange set on the finished floor to have it right.............. Mike

Bud Cline · 01-06-2009, 02:03 PM

Shawn, Here's some other inquiries you have made here Contractor Talk:

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So rip out luan totally and then put down 1/2" backerboard. I was curious if i left luan down then put the backerboard down then the tile if the height would mess with the wax ring on the toilet. ...

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Here's my question. I have the linoleum ripped up and there is just lueon(think its spelled right) left. I want to install tile. My question is do I have to put down backer board or am I able to...

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I am starting from scratch on the ceiling. There is no more drywall. All fell in. I have surrounding walls still in tact. Just trying to figure out process of installing the ceiling drywall and...

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Question on the floetrol, how is it used? I mean the ratio?

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Just figured I'd throw it out there. Whats the going rate for carpet install? Glue down too if you charged seperate. Also, how much are you guys getting for rip up? Glue down too. Thanks.

And you say you are a contractor in the painting and floor covering business?

I don't think so.

Don't you just hate a cynic?

SHAWNPAINTS · 01-06-2009, 02:41 PM

wow..thanks for the help everyone. it must be pretty busy in nebraska. for you to look at all my posts. it either means you admire me and that i should be worried or there is just not much work out there. either way i knew that this would come up. always one in the bunch. its ok though. i got what i needed out of the other people that here to help. thanks again. and bud, thanks again, means alot.

Bud Cline · 01-06-2009, 03:34 PM

Shawn if you belong here that's fine - WELCOME.

Personally I think you're a liar and thought you could get better information from us if you said you were a tradesman. Seems that's the case. I hate liars and thieves.

jamestrd · 01-06-2009, 07:22 PM

everyone is a liar and a thief, especially the ones that say they aint.
Everyone is capable of what they say they arent..

took me 40 years to learn this, but finally stuck.

SHAWNPAINTS · 01-07-2009, 07:42 AM

Bud, thanks for the welcome. All I wanted was some advice on how to go about installing tile in my bathroom. I sub out my tile work cause I don't have much experience in doing tile. And I tell my customers that when I do go on a job that needs that work. My tile guy is on vacation and I didn't want to bother him with this. Just needed a hand on how to go about it. You live hundred's of miles away from me and have no idea of what I am capable of. And I don't know what your capable of either. So to call me a liar and a theive for asking a question, well, it is what it is. Thanks for the help again fella's.

MALCO.New.York · 01-07-2009, 07:47 AM

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Bud, thanks for the welcome. All I wanted was some advice on how to go about installing tile in my bathroom. I sub out my tile work cause I don't have much experience in doing tile. And I tell my customers that when I do go on a job that needs that work. My tile guy is on vacation and I didn't want to bother him with this. Just needed a hand on how to go about it. You live hundred's of miles away from me and have no idea of what I am capable of. And I don't know what your capable of either. So to call me a liar and a theive for asking a question, well, it is what it is. Thanks for the help again fella's.

This is NOT what you do.........................So this makes you a Skilled DIYer.

Bud KNOWS! He has, in my short experience, never been wrong.

(Missed the word "never" in my original post. Sorry Bud)

SHAWNPAINTS · 01-07-2009, 11:10 AM

Malco, I don't get what you're trying to say. Not being ignorant, just don't know what you mean by saying that is not what you do.

PrecisionFloors · 01-07-2009, 06:12 PM

You're not a flooring pro. If you were, you wouldn't need the answers to the very basic questions you've asked. Don't portray yourself as something you're not. I know a fair amount about electrical, carpentry, plumbing, and masonry work (more than you know about flooring I'd be willing to bet) yet NONE of those trades are listed in my profile or area of expertise. Because I don't pretend to be a "pro" at any of them, just like you shouldn't pretend to be a flooring pro.

rbsremodeling · 01-07-2009, 06:33 PM

Ok I am so confused here. Is he or is he not a flooring and painting Pro?

tgeb · 01-07-2009, 06:44 PM

Even I knew the correct answers to his questions, what's that tell ya!

Bud Cline · 01-07-2009, 06:46 PM

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Bud, thanks for the welcome.

Not a problem glad to be of service.

A more cordial welcome would be realized from me had you posted your questions on a DIY Forum where you belong.

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All I wanted was some advice on how to go about installing tile in my bathroom.

Well then, you lucked out and got more than you bargained for.

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I sub out my tile work cause I don't have much experience in doing tile.

Yow, NO ****!

YOU sub out YOUR tile work? So you are willing to shoulder the ultimate financial responsibility of a failed tile installation with your limited knowledge? Bull****!

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My tile guy is on vacation and I didn't want to bother him with this.

That's laughable - you don't have a tile guy. Why wouldn't you want to bother your tile guy? He's your tile guy. He's at your disposal. You pay the guy. You prospect the jobs for the guy. You stand behind what he does.

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You live hundred's of miles away from me and have no idea of what I am capable of.

Thank God for that, hopefully our paths will never cross.

You come here sneaking around and giving a phony company name that doesn't exist. You think you are smarter than the guys here by telling them you a brethren. You try to warm up to pros so you can get what you want at no charge. What your are doing is a theft of services and that makes you a thief. And you lied your way in here. That makes you a liar. I hate liars and thieves - did I mention that already?

Every once in a while this happens. Some mental dwarf comes along and thinks he can outsmart guys that are street wise and thinks he is owed something, so he says he is a tradesman. Then he asks some of the most basic dumb questions about a trade he professes to be a member of and thinks he won't be found out.

THAT, in and of itself is plain STUPID.

OK, I'm finished there Shawn ole buddy!

I'll give YOU the last word.

Static Design · 01-07-2009, 07:58 PM

It's the intraweb you can be anything you wanna be.