Nailing Vs. Screwing

Floordude

Coarse thread drywall screws will work. They are a little brittle and snap the heads when they get in a bind, but you don't have to worry about rust, as there is more moisture involved in taping and floating a drywall job, then rolling out asphalt impregnated felt.

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rusty baker

I have installed flooring for 35 years. It is better if underlayment is stapled.

Poor Floorman

Screws will hold better if they are the right ones.
All screws are not the same. The ones for sub-flooring have a reverse thread just below the head to force the sub-flooring down tight. Otherwise you have a better chance of loose or creeky floors if no glue was used.
For me, I use ring shanked cement coated nails in my Senco and call it a day.
Anyway, I'm new to the forum but been installing floors for 27 years.
Hope I've helped

Cdat

Screw and glue. Keep using nails so I can go back and get it done right and charge more!

Bill

Thats right. been telling people that. Glad someone else knows too. The sub floor will not always come down to contact the joists with conventional screws and especially nails.

We had to go back on one because of a squeaky spot due to the nail did not pull the plywood down. The subfloor was riding up and down the nail.

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Cdat

That's why God invented shims! Don't ya'll no nothin?

Poor Floorman

I hope this site is not filled with people like this, maybe just a bad apple in the bunch.

They build with nails, the code is a nailing schedule. All those sub-floors that are installed with nails and up to code are what?

Some people spend their whole life in the box.

I wonder if Cdat puts 3/4" plywood sub-floor, over concrete, with screws and glue. I suppose on each sheet of plywood he could drill 42 holes in the concrete, plug them, spread the glue and then screw the plywood sheet down. Hence screwed and glued plywood sub-floor done right.
Let's follow this guy, he knows where he's going.

Furthermore, I hope Cdat isn't one of these guys that uses the wrong screw or cheep ones and doesn't sink them all the way and leaves the heads up. Because all I can do is to fix this problem after is to hit them with a hammer, break the head off and put a nail there. Now try and tell me that you're the only floor guy that sinks all the screw heads. LOL

Cdat

Code is the bare minimum. I'm a dick, live with it, m'kay? I'd not be doing a floor over concrete in the 1st place. The items I brought up were from previous arguments on this very same sub-forum. Kinda' poking fun at those people. So, edumacation my dear fellow! I do SECTIONS of floors. Rarely the whole floor.

Bill

Code is minimum requirement, that does not mean its the best thing to do

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Cdat

His stuff only has to survive until the next earthquake. Mine has to survive forever.

Bill

there you go! i usually try to go above and beyond code requirements myself. Just looks and lasts better.

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stevensmth89

If you would like to permanently keep the flooring, nailing should be better due to the fact that it is much stronger than screwing. However, screwing should be very helpful if you are planning on removing the flooring.

Hope i was helpful,
John

Bill

Not true. As stated before even ring shank nails will turn lose after time. Smooth shank nails will pull out also. You simply can not pull out a screw like a nail.

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OCRS

You can't honestly believe this. Your trade is listed as realtor . Subloor is glued, tacked w/nails, then screwed with flooring screws. Underlayment stapled.

Bill

Yeh, I thought the same thing, realator. Guess they got into the home building business

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OCRS

Hey 45, what happened to your old avatar? Everytime you post it's a different one. I liked the pistolis myself

Bill

Im going to put them back on, waas just fooling and lost it

There you go!

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Poor Floorman

I live in So. Cal. Earthquake country, and thank you Moe, Larry and Curly for your advice on where the building inspectors can stick their building codes.

Not to get off the subject, I got a riddle for you guys.

WHO JUMPS FIRST OUT OF THE AIRPLANE WITH NO PARACHUTE?

A plumber, a fool or a carpenter.

Since these guys haven't been laying floors very long.............

WHO CARES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BattleRidge

dude look at his other posts. he is just whoring it up. Nailing may have more sheer strength, but I don't know if thats a big issue or not. I screw and PL40 but Ive never gone back to a house Ive done after an earthquake either. I agree code is the minimum requirement for a lot of things I say do it your way as long as its above and beyond. As far as the angry flooring guy. Im not taking any sides, but what have you seen happen to a screwed down floor thats so horrific?This is your chance to teach me a lesson Because I am just a youngin and have seen lots of sqeeky floors from nails.

Cdat

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