Linoleum Disposal?

ruger9

I'm going to be laying a ceramic tile floor in a kitchen, with 2 existing floors: sheet lino with tile lino over top (nothing inbetween). I plan to to remove BOTH sheets of lino so I'll have room to add a subfloor for the tile to set on (adding 3/8" ply to the 3/4" ply that's there already.)

I don't know what to do to dispose of the linoleum. It probably doesn't have asbestos in it (the house is 30 years old, so maybe the sheet layer might), but my local landfill won't take asbestos, I have to call them and ask about linoleum specifically, altho I can already guess their answer...

I don't want to put another sub on top of the 2 linoleum layers, partially because it just doesn't sound right to me... that's an awful lot of resilience under a tile floor, even with a new sub. But also, it'll raise the floor height up considerably, AND require a re-work of the back door & frame for the door to even open, which I REALLY don't want to add to the job.

Any suggestions for disposal of linoleum?

Zero Punch

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"It probably doesn't have asbestos in it (the house is 30 years old, so maybe the sheet layer might),"

There is a definite probability that the bottom floor covering if the house is thirty years old.

Your career as a"PRO" may be short lived, messing with asbestos if unlicensed.

Although it may be the first choice or the best choice the safe choice is encapsulation, in other words go over the existing floor with your underlayment and then install the new flooring. As a "PRO" you should be able to devise a method to minimise the floor height difference or contact a pro in asbestos removal and disposable.

fast pasquale

Isn't it true that if it does have abestos...it would be in the 5% or less range??...

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dkillianjr

Thats what I've always heard.

Do you mean that theres individual tiles on top of the bottom sheet goods? If so I believe if the the tiles are 9"x9" they are asbestos, but im not positive though.

fast pasquale

I just got off a job (today) with a similar situation... Half way through i SERIOUSLY thought of telling the customer that this may be abesetos and that they would have to have it professionally removed but I thought i would have killed my chances at finishing the job with their added cost. I wouldn't not have missed pulling up about 20 staples per sq foot. I just purchased a asbestos mask and wore long sleeves and peeled layers before gettin in the van.. I by no means am recommending that this is the correct procedure.. it's just what i did...

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Pasquale Floors

ruger9

this is 30-year old sheet linoleum, with 3 year old vinyl stick-downs stuck right on top of the sheet.

I think what I have decided to do is take the stick-downs off, leave the sheet, and put a new subfloor over the 30-year lino. This is exactly what I did with my own kitchen floor, ceramic tile install still perfect 4 years later. Encapsulate. Yes, I'll have to also make adjustments to the back door & threshold, and the height of the new floor may not be exactly to the customer's liking, but that's how remodeling goes... unless they are willing to spend big bucks on asbestos testing, and then possibly removal.

fast pasquale

just give em fancy thresholds.

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Second Look

Floor tile is a non-friable material that doesn't emit airborne particles unless beaten, ground, sanded or broken, so it may be safe to work with if it's not already crumbling.

Forsyth County NC has this to say on the subject:



I know they're not exactly an expert on the subject but it was a little more concise than the EPA version:

Here's more from the EPA.

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mack9110000

Linoleum does not contain asbestos, but the vinyl asbestos will,although it will not release any fibres during removal unless,for some reason,you decided to use a sander You should always use a mask when demoing anyway,as you never know the history of the place.