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Old 08-25-2010, 06:56 PM   #1
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Hey all,
I'm about to start a kitchen remodel job for a client who is SUPER paranoid of me hurting her hardwood floor.

I used that floor fabric defender or whatever before and didn't care much for it. I don't particularly care to replace her floor because I dropped something on it and not sure I want to use something as thick or non-flexible as masonite.

I seem to recall seeing some sort of thick roll out board on a job but can't remember the name for the life of me.

Any ideas?

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Old 08-25-2010, 07:46 PM   #2
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Hey all,
I'm about to start a kitchen remodel job for a client who is SUPER paranoid of me hurting her hardwood floor.

I used that floor fabric defender or whatever before and didn't care much for it. I don't particularly care to replace her floor because I dropped something on it and not sure I want to use something as thick or non-flexible as masonite.

I seem to recall seeing some sort of thick roll out board on a job but can't remember the name for the life of me.

Any ideas?

Thanks!

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Whatever you use, watch any subs or employees. They won't care as much as you and usually will not admit fault.

I just roughed in a kitchen last week (electrical only) with a brand new FINISHED hardwood floor (don't ask-yes I know it was not in the right order but I was not the GC on this job)

I prepped the floor with rosin paper and masonite and did all my cuts and bends (conduit) outside. The GC got a bill for the prep, and I took it all with me when I left so I could inspect the floor.

I also told the GC that he needed to come out and sign off that there was no damage.

He sent his project manager-a grasshopper, and I have a signature and pictures.

I don't know your role in the remodel, but just CYA.
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Whatever you use, watch any subs or employees. They won't care as much as you and usually will not admit fault.

I just roughed in a kitchen last week (electrical only) with a brand new FINISHED hardwood floor (don't ask-yes I know it was not in the right order but I was not the GC on this job)

I prepped the floor with rosin paper and masonite and did all my cuts and bends (conduit) outside. The GC got a bill for the prep, and I took it all with me when I left so I could inspect the floor.

I also told the GC that he needed to come out and sign off that there was no damage.

He sent his project manager-a grasshopper, and I have a signature and pictures.

I don't know your role in the remodel, but just CYA.


Good move on your part. I have great subs, but they usually do not go to this extent.
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good man, never heard of anyone doing that

as for protection, any floors that arent getting touched ill put down plastic for the fine dust, 1" foam then osb as its the cheapest thing you can get, so me guys use masonite because its thinner but $5 more at times
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Taking pictures, with a time and date stamp, of the existing conditions and any existing damage is a good first step. In a previous contracting life, customers were constantly trying to get us to repair or replace damage from the last guy.
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With a name like "RemodelKing" I would think you should know information like this ...Just kidding, man.

I pretty much only use Ram Board now for all my jobs. It's pliable, roll-able, and reusable. Also, I've "accidentally" dropped things on it with no damage to the floor underneath. If you go to their site, www.ramboard.com, you can read all about it.

Hope that helps!
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That's what it was!! Ram Board! That's what i saw. Thanks so much!

Yeah, I will still be definitely keeping an eye on my employees that they don't damage something. Great idea about taking the pictures beforehand!
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With a name like "RemodelKing" I would think you should know information like this ...Just kidding, man.

I pretty much only use Ram Board now for all my jobs. It's pliable, roll-able, and reusable. Also, I've "accidentally" dropped things on it with no damage to the floor underneath. If you go to their site, www.ramboard.com, you can read all about it.

Hope that helps!
Yep, good stuff, I've paid around $60 for a 3' x 100' roll, iirc. I was installing a coffered ceiling on an 18' ceiling and lost the 18v battery out of my dewalt gun (on finished hardwoods) ... nothing', not even a small ding or scratch.

I don't know if I just got lucky and it landed flat, but it sold me on the ramboard. We had scaffoldign rolling all over it too and no problem.

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Yep, good stuff, I've paid around $60 for a 3' x 100' roll, iirc. I was installing a coffered ceiling on an 18' ceiling and lost the 18v battery out of my dewalt gun (on finished hardwoods) ... nothing', not even a small ding or scratch.

I don't know if I just got lucky and it landed flat, but it sold me on the ramboard. We had scaffoldign rolling all over it too and no problem.

Good stuff.
Wow, ya, that's good to know. I just got a couple rolls since I hear you can reuse it pretty easily. I mean hopefully I won't be dropping anything from 18' up but it's good to know that I could!
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When I have a remodel that involves alot of demo and finished floors, I will buy new drop cloths and use painters tape then a layer of 3/8" plywood over taped down with tuck tape so nothing moves.

I price this material into the project as well as the appropriate mark up.

Proper prep takes time, but is worth every effort when you can walk away with a check and no damages!

As a rule every day, every job gets drop cloths from the door to where we are working.

Shoe covers for estimates and for preliminary walk throughs!

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I'm on a kitchen now-complete demo. There's a dinning room with hardwood floors between kitchen and garage which is where i enter and exit house. I sliced one side of the boxes cabinetry came in and put the cardboard down on hardwood and taped with painters tape...seems to work great and is really inexpensive.
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Wow, ya, that's good to know. I just got a couple rolls since I hear you can reuse it pretty easily. I mean hopefully I won't be dropping anything from 18' up but it's good to know that I could!

I wouldn't want to re-use it (you could, if you have more patience than I do ).

I just price it in as a material cost (and the labor to put it down), and it gets trashed at the end of a project.
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This is the pain with remodel and protection existing hardwood floors.
Lay the red paper on the clean floor first, do not tape directly on the wood unless it is prefinished with aluminum oxide.
Then protect the floor with protective material thick and heavy.
This is protect the floor %100 just make sure do not pull the tape at any time of the construction because the debris will get under wood floor and make the dents.
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Plastic, then sheetrock. Works good.
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I use laminate flooring underlayment to cover the stairs while I work on site. Thin pieces of wood attached with 3/4" finishing brads with,1 or 2 holds in place.
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Hey all,
I seem to recall seeing some sort of thick roll out board on a job but can't remember the name for the life of me.
Yep, as somebody said I think Ram Board is what you are looking for. You can also use this kraft paper stuff, but its not going to give you impact protection if you drop something sharp or heavy.
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I think you are mistaken about the floor protection. I have dropped drills, hammers and more from my 4' Step and these items have fallen from heights of 8 feet.

We had an attic hatch fall from 8' 4" and completley tear the Ram Board.

The floor was undamaged and the Ram Board section re patched with a new square overlay...



A shower pan being protected with Ram Board. Watch out for those dry wallers...

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I just used the roll cardboard floor protection from my lumber yard. I do not know if Ramboard is made by one manufacturer and rebranded, as this has a different name.(Builderboard?). The second 25' run unrolled off this roll chased me across the room. The manufacturer said it may be old stock that has been rolled/stored for too long. Even with a reverse re-roll and blue tape the edges/ends were up off the floor. Be advised. Great protection though.
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I just used the roll cardboard floor protection from my lumber yard. I do not know if Ramboard is made by one manufacturer and rebranded, as this has a different name.(Builderboard?). The second 25' run unrolled off this roll chased me across the room. The manufacturer said it may be old stock that has been rolled/stored for too long. Even with a reverse re-roll and blue tape the edges/ends were up off the floor. Be advised. Great protection though.
haha, that's pretty funny. I believe that "builderboard" is a actually a cheaper knockoff version of Ram Board.

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