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Trade: Property management
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EasyMat Vs Ditra ?
Sq ft price is within 5 cents of each other.
EasyMat is an adhesive backing to the sub floor. Ditra needs mortar saturated into the felt backing. Any BTDT experience with the Foam-like roll EasyMat? I'm concerned with the corners adhesion......and who will back the "Lifetime Warranty"? Job is a kitchen: 8" joists, 16"o.c and 12' span 50 y.o home w/1x6" original subfloor, w/recently overlaid underlayment 4ply 7/16".........bringing the base floor to ~5/4" Looking to finish with: 1/4" ceramic 12" tiles. Transition height to existing hardwood floors (nearly level) is the main issue and the weight upon small joists. Thanks! -Suf |
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I builds'em
Trade: Renovations & Decks
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Re: EasyMat Vs Ditra ?
If it's only a few cents difference why not go with the schluter? It's proven and they stand behind their product if anything ever does go wrong.
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"da Whale don't hesitate"
Trade: Hard Surface Flooring
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: South Florida
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Re: EasyMat Vs Ditra ?
Easymat is to Ditra = 5/8" particleboard is to 3/4" T&G Advantech
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Re: EasyMat Vs Ditra ?Quote:
Uhhh..... Houston, we have a problem!!!!
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"da Whale don't hesitate"
Trade: Hard Surface Flooring
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: South Florida
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Re: EasyMat Vs Ditra ?
Yep...I missed that. Does not meet L/360 deflection standards, but, I think Schluter will still warranty it with Ditra over single layer plywood/OSB subfloor.....they allow some pretty loose specs iirc. Ditra XL will allow even more.
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New Guy
Trade: Tile Apprentice & THD Flooring Associate
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Long Island, NY
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Re: EasyMat Vs Ditra ?
Custom Building Products do make some great stuff- but I would add that none of their great stuff is the best in the business...Check with your Local THD - they should have the # to a regional rep for Custom Building Products (That rep provides training to dedicated Tile Aisle associates & also does inspections of jobs in the event you need coverage for their warranties...also keep in mind the job MUST BE LAID to Custom Building Product specs, so if your cutting any corners- you will void out the warranty)- if you can't find an apron (it happens) drop by the tile aisle and flip over a bottle of sealer- take down the 800# on the back...the guys on the other end of the phone can give you any kind of specifics needed on their product- but they'll probably tell you what everyone else here will say and thats to go with the Schluter...
Edit: Keep in mind that most of the associates aren't on the ball- you might want to get in touch with their Flooring Expeditor...that person communicates directly with installers and S/O manufacturers and should have a list of contacts including their Regional Custom Building Products rep Last edited by THDTile1229; 05-27-2009 at 01:10 PM. Reason: Murphys Law of THD |
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Registered User
Trade: Property management
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Re: EasyMat Vs Ditra ?
Thanks for the info.
In doing further research and your help, we've decided to return the EasyMat and go with the Ditra. The span is actually around 10'6", So the deflection should be a bit less. Floor feels solid under my 235lbs. We'll see. |
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bathroom guru
Trade: Bathroom Design Build Contractor
Join Date: May 2008
Location: London, Ontario, Canada
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Re: EasyMat Vs Ditra ?
Glad to hear you took back the easy mat and got ditra
Easy mat just doesn't compare!! |
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Linear Shower Drains
Trade: Linear shower drain installations & waterproofing
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: North Vancouver
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Re: EasyMat Vs Ditra ?
What's up with Custom Not allowing Non-Modified Thin-set with Ditra.
Have you guys seen this technical bulletin? UPDATE; I just called Custom Building Products and they where stumped over this bulletin. I was told this morning that they do recommend Non-Modified thin-set and even make an uncoupling thin-set which is non-modified. Custom Building Products can be reached at; Corporate Headquarters 13001 Seal Beach Blvd Seal Beach, CA 90740 562-598-8808 Customer Support Ph 800-272-8786 Fax 800-200-7765
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Sam
Trade: Wood Cork and Leather Flooring and more
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Austin TX
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Re: EasyMat Vs Ditra ?
I am not sure what the EasyMat is but I have been using Protecto Wrap Whisper Mat over concrete floors and have great results.It is much cheaper than Ditra and less labor intensive. I am planning to use same for upcoming project over plywood subfloor which has passed deflection test by structural engineer.
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Alone Eagle Remodeling
Trade: Tile and Stone Showers & Floors
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Harrisburg, Pennsylvania
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Re: EasyMat Vs Ditra ?
Strange article... Dal here has Easy Mat (the thinset down version). I may try it out sometime but right now I'm liking the Noble TS the most.
Eventually I have another bathroom floor to retile so I thought about tryin the Easy Mat in there. Has anyone here actually used it?? |
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Pro
Trade: DIYer apparently
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: jacksonville florida
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Re: EasyMat Vs Ditra ?
wasnt there easy board or something like that as well??? kinda the first trial of kerido board??? Anyway the Bedrosains here in jax has 2 pallets of stuff throwing it out
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Pro
Trade: Remodel
Join Date: Feb 2010
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Re: EasyMat Vs Ditra ?
I have (primer one) and it wasn't bad to use. The hardest part was unrolling it and getting it flat. Corners I had to weigh down and marking it sucked. Never had to take off any done, so I don't know how well it sticks. I've always been impressed with laticrete's 150's bonding though. If it sticks like that, it's good.
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