Demo & Replace Of Floors! Price Please? - Contractor Talk - Professional Construction and Remodeling Forum

UNDER-R8ED · 10-11-2007, 04:23 AM

We have recently started a company but DO have experience to do the work... the only problem is bidding on jobs...

Right now we are working a quote for a major job that could set us on our way but really arent too sure on the pricing. The dims are below if anyone could please help with some advise!

This quote will be incorrorated with other aspects of the job including drywall, wood flooring, etc. Please help in anyway you can!

COMPLETE DEMO OF ALL LANOLEUM FLOORING AND REPLACING WITH TONGUE/GROOVE PRE-MANUFACTURED WOOD FLOORING-

TOTAL SQ. FT = 645 sq. ft

If you have any information on a price for tearing out and/or replacing with the wood... PLEASE LET US KNOW!

Any help at all will be GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!

THNX -

floorinstall · 10-11-2007, 07:23 AM

removing the existing floor is something that should be Left to a flooring professional. depending on the age of the flooring it may contain asbestos. The removal of the flooring is very difficult to estimate it depends on what kind of flooring it is and what kind of glue is used. To install wood flooring you must do a moisture test of the substrate which is impossible with the existing floor in place. I am assuming that the sub-floor is concrete. For all theses reasons and more a qualified flooring contractor should be consulted and used or this potions of the job could very easily sink you not save you

MattCoops · 10-11-2007, 08:33 AM

Is the linoleum sheet vinyl or tile vinyl?
If they are in tile form, what size are they? If they are 9" then call a team liscensed to remove and dispose asbestos material.
Don't know where you are, but in my part of the country you can be fined up to $10,000 and do some jail time by removing asbestos and not disposing of properly.

Floordude · 10-11-2007, 04:25 PM

Figure how much time it is going to take. You say you have done this before and are experienced, you should have a grip on the time it will take to complete the tasks. Now you know your labor costs. Then figure all your costs to do the job. Fuel, insurance, all the way to staples for your paperwork. Add those two together, and then you need your wage, right? Add that. Now the business, which is separate from your wallet, as a business needs money to keep the doors open, add your margins for a profit for the business. You may want to add a goof amount for the missed costs or extra unseen downtime. If you have to subcontract out an asbestos abatement, add that with a mark up.

Now, you have what you need to make on that job, to stay in business and pay your guys. Divide that by 645, and you have the number, your asking us for.

Are you sure you have contracted before??? This is basic business 101.

Demonseed · 10-11-2007, 06:18 PM

I have to agree, you really need to know what the existing vinyl is, before you consider a bid. Not that it is a huge job area wise, it still is substantial so be thorough.

When all else fails when trying to successfully bid a job, bid high. That doesn't mean take advantage of the customer, but give yourself room to cover unexpected costs. I am currently bidding a 500 yard Carpet Tile Job, that has to be done on a weekend, it is a lift job with furniture, and they want me to supply all of the materials. When I say bid high, I am not saying to ignore your actual rates, but to keep in mind unexpected things may occur. For example, this job looks strait forward, rip out seems easy enough from random tests in the area, but I have to allow for prep work, in case I hit a section and have patch flying off the floor.

Now if I don't have prep work in my bid and that happens, i will be eating some labor and materials. The other thing I have to consider, this is a corporation, I have figured 2 days labor for 4 guys on a weekend, but if there is a problem, and I have to bring in more guys on a Sunday, The job must be completed on Sunday, I have to allow for that as well. What has helped me bid the labor on this more accurately, the customer has added and removed areas to the actual work area, meaning I have had to go back several times. You also have to allow that extra time, gas, etc for returning to amend the original proposal in your bid.

Now also consider the time frame, They want the job installed after a specific event occurs on their end. I do not know when that event will occur, so I am in limbo if they accept my bid, that is why the bid is dated and expires. I get a call and suddenly find they want this Job done the weekend of Thanksgiving, I am not going to be paying the help normal weekend wages. We are talking about having certified furniture installers, that will want a premium to work a holiday weekend.

In the long run it is alot of work just getting a proposal/bid together, especially when you are dealing with a large job and want to ensure you do not make any mistakes.