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06-13-2009, 09:29 AM
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Cross-laminated PE vapor barrier under floating floor after leveling with sleepers
Hi,
sorry, I hope it's ok to post in this forum, am doing my own interior design, but am not a flooring person and need advice for this to talk with my floor guys.
I am trying to get a slanted wood floor leveled (about 5.5 " differential) including an odor-proof vapor barrier (Cross-laminated PE, like here nontoxic.com/moisturecontrol/tutuff.html, e.g.), to prevent odors, fumes and hot air from coming up through the floor.
Planning to have the flooring guys remove the top flooring down to the sub floor, then build the floor to level with sleepers, adding plywood to create a new, level subfloor, then the cross-laminated virgin polyethylene sheet, sealed at the sides with silicone gasket and 1/2 x 2 wood, screwed or nailed into the sheet rock of the walls.
My flooring guy seems to be uncomfortable with not being able to nail through the plastic and how to properly attach the top floor. Assuming there should be an underlayment between the PE and the top floor. How can one best affix the PE to the plywood below and to the underlayment, to prevent mmovement? Can the PE be glued to the wood above or below, and if yes, with which product?
I appreciate your suggestions.
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06-13-2009, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by sjkm
Hi,
sorry, I hope it's ok to post in this forum, am doing my own interior design, but am not a flooring person and need advice for this to talk with my floor guys.
I am trying to get a slanted wood floor leveled (about 5.5 " differential) including an odor-proof vapor barrier (Cross-laminated PE, like here nontoxic.com/moisturecontrol/tutuff.html, e.g.), to prevent odors, fumes and hot air from coming up through the floor.
Planning to have the flooring guys remove the top flooring down to the sub floor, then build the floor to level with sleepers, adding plywood to create a new, level subfloor, then the cross-laminated virgin polyethylene sheet, sealed at the sides with silicone gasket and 1/2 x 2 wood, screwed or nailed into the sheet rock of the walls.
My flooring guy seems to be uncomfortable with not being able to nail through the plastic and how to properly attach the top floor. Assuming there should be an underlayment between the PE and the top floor. How can one best affix the PE to the plywood below and to the underlayment, to prevent mmovement? Can the PE be glued to the wood above or below, and if yes, with which product?
I appreciate your suggestions.
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What kind of mess are you trying to hide under this?
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06-13-2009, 12:28 PM
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dead bodies I am sure
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06-13-2009, 12:50 PM
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It sounds like you're creating a vapor retention system that will result in structural failure.
In the english language there seems to be a word for undoing just about anything. One can construct and demolish, paint and strip, dig and fill. It sounds like in this case the undoing word is abortion.
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06-13-2009, 11:57 PM
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mess underneath
the mess underneath is a deli with a not very reliable ventilation system and occasional fumes that give me intractable headaches and a 40 year lease.
Also, there's a lot of heat coming up from thier grills, and my apartment is totally overheated.
That's why I want a tight vapor barrier.
If you have a better suggestion about how to achieve this, it is certainly welcome.
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06-14-2009, 12:03 AM
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yeah move!
or drop pube hairs through the floor. no more deli
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06-14-2009, 12:19 AM
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Naptown coming again with his out of the box.. futuristic thinking.. 1 word: Picturesque!
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06-14-2009, 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by nEighter
Naptown coming again with his out of the box.. futuristic thinking.. 1 word: Picturesque!
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Kind of like feeding mayonaise to the tuna fish.
It's what I do best. Particularly after about a liter of grey goose
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06-14-2009, 12:56 AM
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LMAO!! Damn Malco is raving right now..
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06-14-2009, 01:12 AM
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LMAO!! Damn Malco is raving right now..
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He would have seriously enjoyed this.
Maybe he'll tell stories tomorrow.
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06-14-2009, 01:14 AM
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stories of exed out rave chicks... 
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06-14-2009, 10:03 AM
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