Carpet/Tile Transition Not Under Door; Need Your Response

SLSTech

It should be hidden under the door - now, trying to repair it will be costly & not as good as the original. (i.e. carpet seam in the doorway - not good) If you have tile left over & some carpet remnants that will help if its all gone, now your getting into different batches, etc...

Are the doors normally opened or closed? With all that being said, as the paying customer - it should be done correctly or an agreed upon deduction should be arrived at. FYI, there is a sister site to this one called diychatroom where many of the pros on here also answer questions. This board is strictly for the pros to unwind & talk shop

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kinimaka

Got it. I'll put it over there since I don't want to ruffle any feathers. Thanks again.

scuba

You're such a nice guy SLS.

It's almost funny when the honesty comes out.

I have to give this guy some credit for fessing up, most never come back.

Greg

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It goes to show, Honesty is the best policy!!

And to be honest, your transition should be hidden under the door

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Floorwizard

The fact is I agree with one of the posts above. If both floors were laid at the same time then it is unacceptable...period.
We all know this.
However if the tile was existing, then it should look the same as before.
If the Tile was laid and the carpet was too short to stretch to the new tile, then the best job was done possible.

It's just a fact that seeing the floor on the opposite side of a door is not standard practice...period.
Only good excuse is that it was unavoidable....

was it unavoidable?

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kinimaka

It could have been avoided since the tile went in first. We wanted the gc's sub to cut the tile and move it back, problem with that is he started from the back of the room so the tile at the door was already cut short (see pic below), so there would have been around an inch and a half piece when you opened the door.

On another note, thanks fellas for answering my questions. I posted the same topic on DIY chatroom in flooring. (I haven't posted enough to provide the link)

Thanks again!

Floorwizard

That doesnt quite explain it.

Was the carpet new and installed after the tile?
Was the carpet existing as was longer, but then cut back to fit the tile after the tile was installed?

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WarnerConstInc.

Looks to me that the tile guy thought the door was going to open the other way, out swing, then it would have been fine.

3rdFloorDesign

Here is the answer:

Transitions should always be hidden under the door. Tile always gets installed first. Even if on the rare occasion where the GC screwed up , and the carpet goes first then the carpet would be left long and finished off to the tile after the tile is done.

The Tile guy cut his tile too long.

Solution? Tile guy re cuts his tile, and carpet guy has to add a small seam so the carpet meets the transition.

floorinstall

The standard is to have the split 1/2 way under the door. You should not see the flooring of one room from the other when the door is shut. You can correct the problem by cutting the tile back with a angle grinder and installing a marble threshold under the door. This would also entail seaming the carpet at the threshold to extend into the doorway.This is defiantly the fault of the tile setter. I do a lot of tile installations before the doors are hung and i always have the G.C. layout which way the doors are to swing and set tile to the required distance to be under the door.

M&GConstruction

i agree, install a marble saddle.

fixitpete

Two pages of replies. I get the fact that he's not in a trade... that aside, saddle will solve the problem. You could even work the bottom of the saddle so no modifications would be needed to tile or carpet.

Good luck.

ian@prosource

The problem you have now is,

1, the tile guy put his tiles too far through the door, this was not picked up by the GC or yourselves or the carpet guy.

2, The carpet guy should have seen this and not finished the carpet as he did, he should have left extra and got the GC/tile guy to recut his tiles.

3, as the GC it is his job to oversee all the work being done, the problem is did the GC arrange/employ both the tile guy & carpet guy or did you contract anyone of them. If you contracted anyone of them then the GC cannot be liable for the actions of people he did employ on site.


Two ways to solve this, 1, cut the tiles back and replace all the carpet in that area (no join near the door)
2, cut back tile & carpet to equal distance on both sides of the door and fit a extra wide feature transistion strip

I would also suggest if you are planning to become a consultant in flooring/building/reno's you get trade skills & experiance first, know one will treat or respect you as a consultant unless you have spent many years on sitre first

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Floorwizard

Good points.
I would expect nothing less from a Prosource employee.

CarpetOne reprenting here...

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Javier559

The tile installer went to far out, its something that should have been caught before the carpet was installed. It is a standard thing to end the tile at the center of the door if he didnt know that i would be worried of what else he didnt know. if you can live with it then leave it if not you can always have the tile installer cut the tile back 2 inches, stone it and then have the carpet installer try to stretch the carpet to it. If he cant stretch he might be able to seam a little piece of carpet to reach the tile.

TopFloor

flooring should meet other flooring at the centerline of the closed door.

jhark123

Since you are in Seattle, I'll offer my services. I.E. cut back tile and bring in a carpet layer to stretch/seam up to the tile

Anti-wingnut

Just looking at it, did the door get changed from a pocket door to an in-swing? Maybe the GC didn't tell the tile guy. Or maybe the whole problem is the fault of the home-owner. Maybe their decision was not timely.

TimelessQuality

It looks like the stops are f'd up on the door. (look close)

Could replace the stops/move hinges to move the door out

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JungleJoe

what the heck, i'll add my 2 cents too....tile guy went to far,BUT the carpet guy should have seen that and saved a seam right there,because 8 out of 10 times, that being a high traffic area, the seam will come loose befor its time...........Jody