Carpet/Tile transition not under door; need your response - Contractor Talk - Professional Construction and Remodeling Forum

kinimaka · 03-18-2009, 07:11 PM

Please look at the pictures below. I am trying to convince a gc that this is not a correct transition. I have told them it's wrong - the tile should not be seen when the door is closed. Tile was installed first, carpet after.

Please reply with your professional opinion. Thank you.

- 1st pic is the laundry room, 2nd is the bathroom.

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**loneframer** · 03-18-2009, 07:16 PM

I am always meticulous about laying everything out to transition at the centerline of the door. When the door is closed, you should not see floor transitions. I never trust any trade to know their business, if I am project manager, I lay out EVERYTHING.

OCRS · 03-18-2009, 07:21 PM

Who are you trying to convince?

Home Work Pro · 03-18-2009, 07:26 PM

The transition should be at the door edge even with the inside of the stop.
Were the carpet and the tile installed at the same time?
If this is a new carpet job and the tile was already there, then I could understand the carpet installer tucking up to it.
Same situation with the tile.

kinimaka · 03-18-2009, 07:34 PM

We're in a dispute with a gc who thinks this is industry/workmanlike standard. We believe it's not from the many remodeled or newly constructed homes we've toured.

** The tile was installed first, then the carpet. FYI, this was a whole house remodel.

I don't want to get too sidetracked, just want your thoughts if this is standard for remodel/new construction. Thanks.

Home Work Pro · 03-18-2009, 07:41 PM

In a partial remodel, I could understand this happening.
In a complete rehab with new flooring being installed in both locations, this shouldn't be acceptable. The tile installer went too far!

OCRS · 03-18-2009, 07:43 PM

What are you a consultant of ? You mentioned "we're in dispute...." , who else is the "we" ?

kinimaka · 03-18-2009, 07:53 PM

"What are you a consultant of ? You mentioned "we're in dispute...." , who else is the "we" ?" - OCRS

Really, are you trying to prove a point or something. This will be my last post regarding OCRS' instigation. Either answer the simple question I provided or move on. I am not here to argue who I am, who we are, or whatever. Does it matter?

It's quite simple, either look at the pictures or move on.

Mike Finley · 03-18-2009, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kinimaka

I am not here to argue who I am, who we are, or whatever. Does it matter?

Yeah it matters, did you read what you agreed to when you joined?

I'm a consultant too, somebody asked me yesterday if the curly fries were good at Arbys. I consulted on them with em so I guess we are peers now.

To answer your questions that looks absolutely beautiful to me, perfect in everyway, stupendous, the tile installer and carpet installer deserve a car a partner and a raise.

kinimaka · 03-18-2009, 08:03 PM

I am a consultant to a family that remodeled. We are in dispute with the contractor. We being my parter and I.

I answered your questions. Can you answer mine about the tile work?

Thanks.

kinimaka · 03-18-2009, 08:05 PM

Appreciate the sarcasm Finley. Always good to know people can be humorous and not serious all the time.

Warren · 03-18-2009, 08:06 PM

Sounds like they might need a lawyer. Or do they already have one??

Mike Finley · 03-18-2009, 08:11 PM

I would find out who installed the door backwards in the rough opening, and sue the crap out of em! Sue em 2 times just to be sure!

Sue em, sue em, sue em!!!!!!!! There's a recession on, squeeze em like a grape!

B_E_Const. · 03-18-2009, 08:22 PM

It is obvious the manufacture of the door should be sued too, oh not to mention the lumberyard that sold the door.... Am I going to far?

OCRS · 03-18-2009, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Finley

I would find out who installed the door backwards in the rough opening, and sue the crap out of em! Sue em 2 times just to be sure!

Sue em, sue em, sue em!!!!!!!! There's a recession on, squeeze em like a grape!

scuba · 03-18-2009, 08:48 PM

A good consultant will consult all the time. Before, during and after. What happened to the during?

Sounds like you may be a consultant lawyer.

SLSTech · 03-18-2009, 08:56 PM

Its not the floor layers fault - the doors were not installed properly - everyone knows that the door should split the transition between the 2 rooms

Oh & thats a $300 consultation fee - follow up charge is $450 an hour / min $300 charge

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kinimaka · 03-18-2009, 11:29 PM

I'm actually a loan consultant. The house is my house. I figured I come on here and get honest answers from some contractors since I'm looking to become a consultant from the unfortunate events that happened during our remodel. That's why I joined this forum - I want to hear from the pros on what actually goes on and how to do it right.

My dad is a tile contractor that's been in business for over 25 years. He argued with the gc that it's not standard. Since he's my dad, I don't want to use his expertise since there is a conflict of interest.

I apologize if some you contractors on here got defensive with my post. I figure a gc who fails building, electrical and plumbing inspections shouldn't be trusted with his word on what is "standard". Which is why I posted the pics and my question.

Thank you Home Work Pro and loneframer for your quick honest answers. I guess I'll have to accept the other sarcastic remarks since I'm not a contractor and am not educated in that area. Our remodel gone bad is one reason I want to become a consultant. Not saying I am one, just want to become one. I've read many helpful and educating posts here on contractor talk. It's too bad I couldn't get the assistance I was hoping for. Oh well. Cheers.

- it would be naive of me to not expect sarcasm, so commence mr. smart guys, I mean you like to laugh at your own jokes anyway.

SLSTech · 03-18-2009, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kinimaka

I'm actually a loan consultant. The house is my house. I figured I come on here and get honest answers from some contractors since I'm looking to become a consultant from the unfortunate events that happened during our remodel.

My dad is a tile contractor that's been in the business for over 25 years. He argued with the gc that it's not standard. Since he's my dad, I don't want to use his expertise since there is a conflict of interest.

I apologize if some you contractors on here got defensive with my post. I figure a gc who fails building, electrical and plumbing inspections shouldn't be trusted with his word on what what is "standard".

Thank you Home Work Pro and loneframer for your quick honest answers. I guess I'll just have to accept the other sarcastic remarks since I'm not a contractor and am not educated in that area. Our remodel gone bad is one reason I want to become a consultant. Not saying I am one, just want to become one. I've read many helpful posts one here. It's too bad I couldn't get the assistance I thought I would. Oh well. Cheers.

Ok - why couldn't you have placed that info up top & asked straight up. You were given quite a few chances & you skirted the issue. You can tell when someones trying to sneak something past you in your field correct? Do you think were any diffrent or just not as smart? Honesty is the best medicine

FYI - original quote is shown, not the edited one the HO did while I was typing

kinimaka · 03-18-2009, 11:45 PM

SLS, I apologize for not being up front from the beginning. That being said, do you think the job is standard? In the end that's all I truly want, an answer to my question. Thanks.