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Old 11-16-2013, 08:42 AM   #1
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Can Deck Glue Instead Of Thin Set For Ceramic Tile?


I have a small 3x4 ft area in front of the entry door that I want to tile. Can I use Loctite Subfloor/Deck 400 to glue the ceramic tiles down instead of thinset
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Of course you can. Just don't expect good results. I've spent the pas few days scraping up cracked tile someone decided to glue down with construction adhesive.

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thinset will support 90+% of the tile versus what? Lines of tube glue? Your "fix" might be quick but when you have to remove it because it cracked, you'll wish you just used the proper cement. Also, thinset would be cheaper than the glue to use.
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Properly applied thinset supplies an even-bearing bed, which helps prevent the tile from cracking. Glue's the hacker's/fly-by-night choice, and might last until the sale closes. If the shoe fits, wear it.
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thinset will support 90+% of the tile versus what? Lines of tube glue? Your "fix" might be quick but when you have to remove it because it cracked, you'll wish you just used the proper cement. Also, thinset would be cheaper than the glue to use.
The o.p. won't be there to fix it. Not a contractor.
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I don't get the impulse. You can get a bag of Versabond for 12 bucks. Water is pretty much free. Construction adhesive is like 8 bucks a tube for the 30 oz.

What the effing eff?
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Further proof that stupid is expensive.
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I don't get the impulse. You can get a bag of Versabond for 12 bucks. Water is pretty much free. Construction adhesive is like 8 bucks a tube for the 30 oz. What the effing eff?
You can walk into Home Depot, grab a couple tubes and they are not as heavy as a bag of thinset. I've used adhesive before on baseboard tile, not because I wanted to, but it actually works on a vertical surface if you have good backing. But yeah don't do it on a floor!
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Why not just use ceramic tile adhesive instead. Pretty much the same type of adhesive, but in a bucket instead of a tube. When I started in the business back in the 70's, tile adhesive was widely used. But as they became more & more expensive, thin set became the tilers choice because it became much cheaper and it dries much faster. You will get twice the square foot coverage with thin set for the same cost of tile adhesive. In my opinion, adhesive it is better at holding tile to the floor than thin set.

I prefer using adhesive on bathroom floors when possible because it is oil based and has superior water resist qualities. Problem is, you have to wait 36 to 72 hours for it to fully dry.

It sounds like you want to tile the entryway of your house to prevent your hardwood floor or carpet from rain & snow damage dragged in on wet shoes. If you can wait the 36 to 72 hours of not using the entry door, then I would definitely use the adhesive over the thin set.
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Why not just use ceramic tile adhesive instead. Pretty much the same type of adhesive, but in a bucket instead of a tube. When I started in the business back in the 70's, tile adhesive was widely used. But as they became more & more expensive, thin set became the tilers choice because it became much cheaper and it dries much faster. You will get twice the square foot coverage with thin set for the same cost of tile adhesive. In my opinion, adhesive it is better at holding tile to the floor than thin set.

I prefer using adhesive on bathroom floors when possible because it is oil based and has superior water resist qualities. Problem is, you have to wait 36 to 72 hours for it to fully dry.

It sounds like you want to tile the entryway of your house to prevent your hardwood floor or carpet from rain & snow damage dragged in on wet shoes. If you can wait the 36 to 72 hours of not using the entry door, then I would definitely use the adhesive over the thin set.

Oh, Please do not use water based adhesive on a floor---

Placed under large tile it will take forever to dry---and the first time the floor gets wet the adhesive will re emulsify--causing the floor to fail.
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Oh, Please do not use water based adhesive on a floor---

Placed under large tile it will take forever to dry---and the first time the floor gets wet the adhesive will re emulsify--causing the floor to fail.
It's oil based
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It's oil based
AcrylPro is water based acrylic------
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He mentioned oil based in his post, the picture might be different
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Why not just use ceramic tile adhesive instead. Pretty much the same type of adhesive, but in a bucket instead of a tube. When I started in the business back in the 70's, tile adhesive was widely used. But as they became more & more expensive, thin set became the tilers choice because it became much cheaper and it dries much faster. You will get twice the square foot coverage with thin set for the same cost of tile adhesive. In my opinion, adhesive it is better at holding tile to the floor than thin set.

I prefer using adhesive on bathroom floors when possible because it is oil based and has superior water resist qualities. Problem is, you have to wait 36 to 72 hours for it to fully dry.

It sounds like you want to tile the entryway of your house to prevent your hardwood floor or carpet from rain & snow damage dragged in on wet shoes. If you can wait the 36 to 72 hours of not using the entry door, then I would definitely use the adhesive over the thin set.
Please go back to the diy network. This is a professional forum. If you honestly believe in that drivel you need to put the pipe down.
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I have a small 3x4 ft area in front of the entry door that I want to tile. Can I use Loctite Subfloor/Deck 400 to glue the ceramic tiles down instead of thinset
You can as long as nobody walks on it.

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