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Chief Toilet Mover
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Bellawood
Prefinished Bellawood - what's the industries take on this stuff? Good/bad, over-hyped, excellent product? Any pros and cons somebody should know? $3.50 sq/ft for Brazilian Cherry seems like a steal to me, but what do I know?
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Flooring Guru
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Re: Bellawood
Sounds like the product is thin.
I have never seen it, but the price is insane.
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Re: Bellawood
Ive used some before and i believe it was 3/8" thin and was also a solid material maple. Went together good, but you might beable to find better deals out there.
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Re: Bellawood
From what I've read on other forums from guys with experience, they have gone seriously downhill. You get what you pay for.
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Re: Bellawood
Some more details:
I'm referring to the 3/4 solid pre-finished Bellawood. Has a 8 coat finish with a 50 year warranty. This would be nailed down. I haven't seen anybody approach $3.5 sq foot for Brazilian Cherry so wondering if there is a catch. This is sold by Lumber Liquidators.
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Re: Bellawood
Of course there is a catch.
You just have to find out what it is.
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Re: Bellawood
bella wood is pretty good if you do not buy it from lumber liquidators. There stuff is junk. Every type of wood from them has splits and knot holes.
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Re: Bellawood
Mike, We installed about 1200 ft of that Brazilian cherry a couple of years ago and were pretty satisfied with the outcome. The board widths were not always perfect(never off more than a 1/16th), but for that price it is a steal. I have been back since and the floor looks great. The clients have a couple of black Labs but you can't see it in the finish. The only problem I have with the wood is the color change. Exposure to light darkens the wood a lot and may be noticable when making a furniture move, but I am sure over time it all evens out.
BTW-I highly doubt Bellawood manufactures a different product for LL. |
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Re: Bellawood
Thanks K, good to hear something from somebody who has touched the product. Unless Kory can explain how Lumber Liquidators ends up with rustic quality product in select boxes I have your same take on it. I take it you didn't get the flooring you installed from them or did you? Have you had any experience with them?
Anybody else have any experience with Lumber Liquidators? |
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Re: Bellawood
Mike, That was the only time I've used LL and was satisfied with them. I just looked at the invoice and we paid $5 a foot for solid 3/4"x3", so I wouldn't pass up the deal.
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Re: Bellawood
It has been my experience that every time I have used LL the wood was terrible and have used the same brand from others and it was fine I do not know if they do put lower grades in select boxes but other products Ar's like that at walmart. I do not know about you guys but 1/16th of an inch is unacceptable to me for select.
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Re: BellawoodQuote:
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Re: Bellawood
Kory, what the hell does 1/16 have to do with select?
We are also talking about 3/4 solid hardwood here so it is hard wood all the way through. Select, rustic ect... is a grading system based on appearance such as knots and figure not on thickness, what are you talking about? |
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Re: Bellawood
If prefinished wood has 1/16 in gaps from board to board, it's too much. Prefinished wood ought to have perfect milling. The problem is, the better the milling the more we pay. I think that Bella Wood would have perfect milling but according to Kory they do not. This is a sad thing considering how much advertising they get from places like LL and Rush Limbaugh and Extreme Makeover Home Edition and other high profile t.v. home improvement shows.
A good prefinished floor has near perfect milling, good lengths, very little waste, fits together nicely, long lasting finish, consistant color and a good reputation. If you ask me, the only one that I have used that fits that description is Bruce Hardwood Flooring. They are the patriarchs of the prefinished industry. Good prices too. Bella Wood is over rated.
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Re: Bellawood
Ive used some of the Johnson wood and it is great. I think it was 5/8" thick. But I was impressed.
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Re: Bellawood
Sounds like alot more $$$$$ went into advertising and not the milling.
I love America!
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Re: Bellawood
Bruce has some good lines of flooring BUT they also have alot of junk.you get what you pay for most of the time. justin
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Re: BellawoodQuote:
The 1/16 is the milling not the thickness and k kustom homes posted that and I just said that that is unacceptable to me. I would never install a floor with select grade wood that varied that much. A small miss (very small like less then 1/64)mill here or there is ok but if I find it before it gets nailed it gets put against the wall . If the miss mill looks bad I will rip it out and junk it Last edited by KoryEmma; 10-14-2005 at 08:46 PM. |
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Re: Bellawood
i didn't know pre finished came in "select" hmmm
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