Air Waves Under New Vinyl Flooring

 
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Old 05-27-2009, 10:27 AM   #21
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Hi All,

The guy with the "bigger" heat gun never show up yesterday. I guess that he is playing gulf with his buddies. The area that heat (torched) was applied few days ago, the delamination is worse now and the home owner is furious with us.

Rkeister was right! The technical support group of StainMaster that soft-step requires pressure sensitive MT-711 adhesive. StainMaster told us to take it out and make sure to remove the V-31 adhesive. By the way, StainMaster voided the warranty for the home owner!

There were no dollies ever used on the finished floor.

Side issue: We installed the floor first because the home owner wanted the bottom of the cabinets protected with a layer of vinyl for water protection. They have pets and their past experience with vinyl flooring with a particle board under-layment was disastrous. They are older couple and tile flooring will be too hard on their feet!

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Old 05-27-2009, 12:36 PM   #22
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Also is this glued right over plywood, The cushioned products should still be glued to a luan board. I believe stratamax is the only product able to put put down directly over ply.
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Luan?
wrong...
Luan is cheap crap...why would ply be less warrantied?
because it's more stable?

Look very detailed at Vinyl manufacturer warranties over Luan.
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Well if you want to get technical i use the term loosely, we use ultraply and it does a fine job.
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No technical about it, no one warranties luan.

Plywood is fine as long as it is exterior grade. Not a fan of it myself but its doable.

Im a Tech Ply fan myself. I had 2 Ultraply floors delam on me and all they would do is give me new plywood

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Well if you want to get technical i use the term loosely, we use ultraply and it does a fine job.
sorry, but yes, I do get technical.
Luan is an actual product different from ply.
I just nit pick....
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Hi All,

We finally repaired the air bubble flooring. During the demo, the vinyl sheet peeled right out without any effort from the plywood subfloor. The thing was no gluing to the subfloor! My co-worker took the whole sheet of the vinyl flooring home and said that he will use that on his garage as a floating floor. We had to removed the plywood subfloor and installed a new subfloor. This time, we ordered the right glue instead of trusting the sales rep. at the supplier's warehouse.

Before using the MT-711 on the new floor, we tested the adhesive on a scrapped plywood a week earlier, and we tried to peel the vinyl off without any success.

Everything looks fine now and we hope that nightmare will not haunt us again in the future!

Thanks and stay away from the Mannington's Sorbella flooring!
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