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Old 01-31-2008, 12:59 AM   #1
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Advantage Over Nail Down Over Floating Floor (hardwood)


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What are pros of nail down hardwood vs a locking full floating hardwood floor.
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Old 01-31-2008, 01:16 AM   #2
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Re: Advantage Over Nail Down Over Floating Floor (hardwood)


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Title says it all.

What are pros of nail down hardwood vs a locking full floating hardwood floor.
true hardwood floor just looks better. Installed laminate floating in my house following Katrina. Replaced carpet at that time. I will most likely reinstall with hardwood in the next two years.

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What are pros of nail down hardwood vs a locking full floating hardwood floor.
true hardwood floor just looks better. Installed laminate floating in my house following Katrina. Replaced carpet at that time. I will most likely reinstall with hardwood in the next two years.
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Re: Advantage Over Nail Down Over Floating Floor (hardwood)


ummmm, I think you have your materials crossed Housepainter.

Question was the difference of solid VS engineered I believe.


Solid is just that.....Solid. Most solid wood fans are AVID solid wood fans.

Engineered is more eco friendly, can be installed over more various subsrates and is more forgiving.

See if you can find a place to walk on both to figure which you like.
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A solid, traditional hardwood floor can last the life of your house. I have resanded many floors near and over the 100 year mark. They also add more value to your house than a prefished, engineered or laminate. Not saying that those product dont also have a place in price and application. Choosing carefully by viewing and talking to people that have both will help you make the right choice.
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Sand and finish hardwood adds more value to your house than pre finished?
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Re: Advantage Over Nail Down Over Floating Floor (hardwood)


I was not aware of any 'full wood' floating floor-the engineered flooring (like plywood) can be floating but I have it glued down in my home. The upside is in old homes with floors which are not very straight, the thinner engineered flooring in glue down application doesn't creek (going on 8 yrs).
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I was asking more along the lines of, what the advantage is of naildown over floating hardwood. The hardwood could be engineered or solid, but Ive never seen a floating solid floor.
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I have seen a floating solid application. It was prefinished solid 5 inch material that was "hand scraped". Ir was installed the same method as a normal engineered floor. Use a vapor shield plus pad and glued on all sides, tapped then clamped into place. I do not aprove of this method or believe it will preform well. It was over concrete in a highrise condo and the biss said to this was how he wanted me to do it. dunno
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Re: Advantage Over Nail Down Over Floating Floor (hardwood)


Sorry that i kinda went off tangent, but the question of nail down vs flaoting is simple . Floating is a cheaper product(normaly) andhardwood is the real thing. Solid, traditional istallation will likely be there after your house falls down where as I have seen alot of customers unhappy with the look of floating-prefinished-laminate floors...tire of them in a year or sooner..but have also seen some decent non solids handle alot of traffic without excessive signs of wear. Being in the trade i would say if you can go solid because its wood and can be fix/sanded/refinished but the final call can depend alot on application and and short or long term plans.
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I wouldn't go as far as saying floating is a cheaper floor. You can't get much cheaper then a unfinished solid oak strip. Engineered wood, cost more to manufacture and mill, and that is before any finish is applied.

Junkers Hardwood, has a solid floating floor, using metal clips.
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Yup, you are right. There are products exceeding 14 dollars per sqft. To be honest I try to stay away from prefinish and engineered because of my states license issues and insurance. It is hard to repair these products and I know people in the distribution side of prefinish and floating floors. The warranty doesn't mean much to them it is usaully contested. Not saying the product is bad, but is commonly not installed correctly or the application is wrong. The way i have seen salesmen hit it with hammers and try to scratch a piece with something. Sometimes, with some products it can be a gimmick. There are a few brands i would have in my own home though. Carefully installed these types can be great floors and in many cases outlast the finish wear of traditional flooring. I have read a few of your posts floordude. I just started my account on this site and the few posts i have read from you seem to be right on the money.
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Re: Advantage Over Nail Down Over Floating Floor (hardwood)


wow!

WOW!

WOW WOW WOW!

I am truely amazed at the answers I see sometimes. I truely wonder how many people actualy believe what they say.

Let's get a few facts straight so there is no confusion.

1) there is no solid that SHOULD float. it could be installed that way, but it would be installed the incorrect way.

2) Engineered is not more affordable. it costs more to manufacture as the Dude mentioned.

3) Engineered floor can add just as much value to a home as solid wood.
Wood is wood. Period. Unless you have a hack for a Realtor.

Floordude does have some good, on the money advice. So far no issues with any of it. Although sometimes he can get "irked". Kinda how I feel right now when I see this sort of incorrect advice from others.

If there are salespeople who beat and hit prefinished floors and sell to clients, then that is their screwed up problem. trying to convince a prefinished is super tough is stupid. it will still scratch and dent just as much as an on site finished product.
as far as surface abrasion, it will be different. but most of the time, if not ALL of the time people sand because of dents and scratches, not wear patterns.
Both products are good in their own ways.

Just wanted to clear things up.
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Re: Advantage Over Nail Down Over Floating Floor (hardwood)


Thank you.


Now about the blue sky question.......
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1) there is no solid that SHOULD float. it could be installed that way, but it would be installed the incorrect way.

I know, from all the reading and actually seeing what a solid can and will do, the thought of floating a solid would not fly. JUNKERS clip system made me a believer. It is ingenius. It is not the save all, but it does work. Different size clips for different regions and rH levels. It is kinda a pain, where doorways are invloved!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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