Is this acceptable? - Contractor Talk - Professional Construction and Remodeling Forum

**ProWallGuy** · 08-02-2006, 07:34 PM

I'm working in a house where the hardwood floors were recently re-done. Sanded, stained, and polyed. I'm assuming the sanding machines are discs, because it appears the discs cut grooves in the baseboards. Just here and there, where ever it bumped up against it. Makes it horribly difficult to paint these with grooves all over them. Is this something that randomly happens when sanding floors, or was a hack running this machine?

**ProWallGuy** · 08-02-2006, 07:35 PM

And another:

Peladu · 08-02-2006, 08:23 PM

Time for some shoe.... I have seen better, but I have also seen worse.
Still would be a passing grade, due to the fact that the shoe will cover it.

Donedat · 08-02-2006, 08:51 PM

That doesn't look like disc damage to me. Not sure what caused it, but it wasn't a disc sander. Looks more like someone try prying under it for some reason.

Donedat · 08-02-2006, 08:53 PM

Second thougt, it very well could be. It's really hard to tell from the pictures. That old base mold is really hard to sand up to, that's for sure. The floor guy should have removed it and reinstalled it. But, even with the r&r, some would would still get broken and need total replacement.

**ProWallGuy** · 08-03-2006, 08:03 AM

My bet it is a disc sander. I might be hard to see in the pictures, but you can tell its a groove thats rounded out on each end. And unfortunately, base shoe won't work, as you can see in this picture, the baseboard has a curve on the bottom of it. I don't think a shoe would sit flush against it unless it was routed on the back. All I know is it looks like *****.

Peladu · 08-03-2006, 10:01 AM

Nope ... shoe will not work.

New base and shoe will though..

...or a 5 gallon bucket of wood fill. (sarcasm)

Humble Abode · 08-03-2006, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Donedat

Second thougt, it very well could be. It's really hard to tell from the pictures. That old base mold is really hard to sand up to, that's for sure. The floor guy should have removed it and reinstalled it. But, even with the r&r, some would would still get broken and need total replacement.

I have always been told it is SOP to remove and replace any base boards.

Donedat · 08-04-2006, 10:38 PM

It is not always necessary to remove baseboard. In this situation, it seems like the bb should have been.

adams,b · 08-12-2006, 04:47 AM

If you look really close i think it has a shoe mould. it has been painted with like twenty coats, therefore its a little brittle. sure is discouraging when little paint chips keep falling off the damn door jams and base. just touch it up with some more paint just like the last twenty guy did and be done with it. SOmetimes the paper could not be on the edger right and kinda roll up on the edge making it abrasive on the side of the edger wheel.

Donedat · 08-16-2006, 09:36 PM

I've sanded up to this type of base before. It is really hard but not impossible. The edger man should start at the big maching line and work side to side planing the floor to the wall with the goal of sanding enough off so, when the sander reaches the bb the paper just cuts right under the bb. This method requires both patients and aggressive sanding.

mdshunk · 08-16-2006, 09:41 PM

Is it possible that there used to be wall to wall carpeting in this room which was painted tight to the baseboards, and it ripped off splinters of the base when the carpet was ripped out? Just a thought.

lxdollarsxl · 08-16-2006, 09:53 PM

Looks like your gonna paint over wall paper too?

**ProWallGuy** · 08-16-2006, 09:58 PM

Yessir. That was some 40 yr old paper hung directly over raw brown sheetrock. It had essentially beocme 'one with the wall'. I sealed it with a coat of DrawTite/123 > 75/25 mix, and it was good to go.

Scott Young · 08-16-2006, 10:36 PM

my vote on the issue is that it was a former carpet. i have replaced some base that a sander got into and it looked like ruts or smooth gouges. the base in the picture looks more like wood pulled out like posted before.

any trim carpenter worth his salt can make shoe molding work. I have a hand plane with a junk iron that i use to knock down the high spots so that the shoe will sit flush. once the shoe is down then caulk and paint. it will look great when done.

415moto · 08-16-2006, 10:52 PM

personally, id say replace that plain ugly BB before i spend time trying to fit a shoe to it. Spending $$$ for paint and refinished floors whatever else..do it all nice.

Chris G · 08-17-2006, 08:31 AM

Did the flooring guys paint the base to cover up all their urethane splats?
I noticed a little drip on the wall in the pic.

Whatever the reason for the gouges, it's not acceptable.

Donedat · 08-17-2006, 11:21 PM

That molding looks like the old mahogany stuff they have here. They don't make it like they used to, that's for sure.